Joshua Wise

About and so they're more the traditional eleven e guys now they certainly come into the new voice Iraqi world with things like Kodak’s things like various ways of right p signaling three twenty three isn't high tea you 70-347 signaling protocol it's based on ice-t and we'll talk more about that later but that's one side of the camp the I to the other side of the camp is the pits the internet engineering task force and these are the guys that brought you t chi d this is on the Cisco’s in various uh 70-347 companies around the world and individual it uh function contributing engineers from these companies that came together and produced the area sees the request for comments what we're familiar with from our routing and switching cc and award then cc I hear out switch than your obviously very familiar with that so those are the two sides of the camps id t f comes up with very signaling protocols such as set okay so we're going to.