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AMA and Multirotors

Flyin4fun

70cc twin V2
AMA should not forget about the rest of us that follow the rules and regs
They haven't...... the track record, that the AMA has , is with it's common sense/responsible members, which they constantly remind the FAA when dealing with the FAA's proposed restrictive rules/regulations.
Those restrictive rules/regulations were in the works long before the popularity of FPV/multi rotors.
I will say that it is possible that with the recent idiotic activity of a few, (with the news media blowing it up) has hastened the timeframe of the FAA's rules/regulations.
In my opinion, the FAA SHOULD have had rules/regulations a few years ago, BEFORE the masses bought these FPV drones and feel they can fly where they want, when they want without any regulation what so ever.
Those that have a "hardon" for multi rotors are ALSO missinformed...... for instance, there are quite a few that are "aware" of the Raphael Pirker case (the foreign student that flew FPV around NY city , the Statue of liberty, and thru the campus of Virginia Tech University, for PAY)
BUT, what some do not know is those flights were NOT made with a Multi rotor, They were made with a foamie flying wing that was made FPV capable.
The idiot that crashed his Quad on the White House lawn...is another story.
BUT, if you think about it, that was a plus for the AMA and it's members..... WHY?
Because not one person can say they don't know about the concern about the Multi rotors/FPV..... the media outlets have run amok with news about this, and anybody that NOW owns a Multi rotor/FPV equipped device knows that they NEED to look at themselves and fly with common sense....... those that don't will have to deal with the wrath that be imposed on them in the near future.
 

lraydo

New to GSN!
Is it just me or should it be as simple as LOS = AMA and BLOS = NOT AMA. It's not the multi-rotors that are the problem, it is Beyond Line Of Sight that is the real problem. I think multi-rotors are cool as hell, but as soon as you put on FPV on ANYTHING and fly BLOS, that is when we need to draw the line. AMA should NEVER endorse or condone anything BLOS and should be very public about that. I don't believe AMA has been vocal enough about that with us members or the public on this distinction.
 
Totally agree. It's not the airframe, it's the application. Your giant Telemaster or Big Stik with BLOS gear is a bigger threat and bigger hazard than most of the multi-rotors.

Those saying that our sport is about miniatures of real aircraft are also excluding most of the v wings, the flying Snoopy's doghouses, the flying lawnmowers, flying hamburgers and a myriad of other models. And ignoring full scale multi-rotors like the flying jeep, the Avro flying saucer and all of the various Moller aircar variants.
 
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Spats

100cc
Just opened my new Model Airplane News magazine and the very first page is a two page ad with a quad flying over two Porsche's driving on a road. This all is a lost cause when the industry has ad's like this.
 

Islandflyer

GSN Sponsor Tier 1
Just opened my new Model Airplane News magazine and the very first page is a two page ad with a quad flying over two Porsche's driving on a road. This all is a lost cause when the industry has ad's like this.
You got that right!
And think when I started PAU, we got nasty comments from AMA for a photo of our Ultimate touching the bottom tip of the rudder on the runway!
 

SleepyC

150cc
http://amablog.modelaircraft.org/am...-brown-we-stand-for-education-not-regulation/

OR JUST READ IT HERE:

Special message from Academy of Model Aeronautics President Bob Brown: We stand for education, not regulation


By now nearly everyone is aware of the incident that occurred on Monday, January 26, 2015, involving a multirotor landing on the White House lawn. The incident occurred at 3 a.m. and involved a government employee who had been drinking. The incident resulted in reaction from many, including President Obama, calling for more regulation.

AMA said in a press release issued on Tuesday, that more regulation is not the answer. In fact, this incident took place inside the Washington D.C. Flight Restricted Zone (FRZ), the most heavily regulated airspace in the country. The FRZ was established in 2009 and, in essence, prevents all forms of flight within the restricted area. In this case—a case that has resulted in calls for more regulation—regulation clearly didn’t work.

In late December, AMA, in concert with the Association of Unmanned Vehicle Systems International and the Small UAV Coalition, launched the Know Before You Fly campaign (www.knowbeforeyoufly.org). The initiative is fully supported by the FAA which has lent its name to the effort.

The goal of the campaign is simple. AMA believes, as do most in the model aviation community, that these new enthusiasts want to operate safely and responsibly; it’s simply that nobody has offered guidance on how to do that. Know Before You Fly will partner with other industry associations, manufacturers, distributors, and retailers to get this needed education and training material into the hands of the end users.

AMA believes that a much better approach to managing the community is through education, not regulation. AMA has always believed that the best, and perhaps the only, way to successfully manage the recreational community is through a community-based set of safety guidelines and the combined efforts of the FAA and AMA.

We understand the potential for bad people using any good technology for bad things. We do not support the use of the technology outside of AMA guidelines. We do believe, however, that flown within the envelope of AMA’s safety programming, this new technology is as safe, or safer, than any other modeling discipline in which our members participate.

If the solution was to simply ban the technology, or even just disallow it under AMA programming, it’s unlikely that it would have any significant impact. If the goal is to thwart a nefarious attempt by someone using this technology, no rule or regulation will prevent that. The point is that it’s not the technology, it’s how the technology is used.

AMA has taken the approach we have because we believe that it’s much better to reach out and try to help this new community instead of pretending it doesn’t exist.

If something bad happens, the public isn’t going to ask whether it was caused by an AMA member or not. We’ll all be painted with the same brush. This technology isn’t going away, whether or not the FAA or the AMA prohibits it. It’s out there and growing exponentially. Manufacturers, distributors, and retailers have indicated that they are not going to stop selling product.

At this point, there is nothing the government can do to manage the activity. The FAA doesn’t have the time, money, or resources to try to manage the tens, if not hundreds, of thousands of modelers who have been attracted to this new technology. We believe that everyone—the FAA, AMA, AMA members, modelers, and the general public—would be better served if AMA and other similar organizations helped manage this community, ensuring some level of safety and responsibility that is lacking in a minority out there now.

We support the FAA in its mission to ensure aviation safety, and other federal agencies to ensure national security. We have never wavered from that position. However, we are firm in our belief that a proactive approach to mitigating concerns through education will serve everyone better in the long run.



Bob Brown
AMA President
 
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