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Snoopy1

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The radio is a JR 11X DSMX with a Spektrum PowerSafe 12 channel receiver. Since the Cortex can only do 5 input/outputs, it will be used on the single rudder servo, the 2 elevator servos, and the 2 aileron servos in the lower wing. The 2 servos in the top wing won't go through the gyro. I've read that doing it that way works fine.
If it is all JR/ spectrum with a power safe receiver why not use the new gyro from spectrum especially designed for the power safe receiver and it will take care of all ailerons, rudder and elevators as you mix in the radio. One wire from the receiver to the gyro.
 

Snoopy1

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I'm going to test my technological common sense and see if I understand the setup you've planned. Since I've never had or used a gyro, I'm only assuming when it comes to functionality. As I understand, a gyro on an rc airplane such as the one you have there, though far more elaborate and advanced than the one used on the Apprentice trainer, is basically a stabilization component. I hear a lot of IMAC guys use them as it offers them a bit more stability and precision through their maneuvers. Correct so far? So setting it up as you will be doing, in a neutral aileron stick position, the gyro will make neccessary course adjustments to keep the plane in a smoother articulation. In essence keeping it stable. What I'm a little foggy on however is, let's say you are performing a left aileron roll and realize you've rotated too far and need to easy back on your stick. Is the gyro designed to listen to first input responder, i.e., stick movement? Or will it countermand the aileron movement. If you are moving your radio stick slightly right to compensate for over rotation, (articulating top aileron servos right) will the gyro be fighting back with the lower aileron servos back to the left to continue the roll lessening the force to smooth out the sudden change in input movement? Did I explain that correctly? My common sense side says the gyro "first" responds to input command. Then stabilizes after the stick is neutralised. I've often wondered if I could improve and hone my precision flying were I to use a gyro. I'd kind of like to understand it a bit better.

Let’s start of with I am no expert but have had a couple of them for a while actually 3 but never used the third one yet. One demon and one IGyro. First I am not fan of the units I find myself turning them off most of the time it just feels like some one helping me. But I must say love using them on windy days as I make my final turn to the runway turn it on and then land the plane it really helps me. It takes all the tossing and jumping around out of the flight path you are landing like there is almost no wind blowing . But the best or were I find the gyro most annoying is for example is if you are going straight up and you make a stale turn at the top and the gyro is on now once my plane has turned for example 90 degrees I let go the rudder and the plane turns the rest of the way. But if the gyro is on as soon as you let go of the rudder stick to neutral the gyro will read the plane at whatever angle the plane is at and will try to hold it at that angle, because what ever angle or position the plane is in and the sticks are neutral the gyro reads that and try’s to hold that position and that drives me nuts or makes feel like some one else is on the sticks.
 

Jetpainter

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If it is all JR/ spectrum with a power safe receiver why not use the new gyro from spectrum especially designed for the power safe receiver and it will take care of all ailerons, rudder and elevators as you mix in the radio. One wire from the receiver to the gyro.
As I understand the new Spektrum gyro, all the adjustments are done from a gyro screen on your newer Spektrum transmitter. The JR won't do that.
 

Jetpainter

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My common sense side says the gyro "first" responds to input command. Then stabilizes after the stick is neutralised.

As long as it is set up correctly and is not in "Hold Mode" that is correct. In my opinion, you won't feel a correctly setup gyro in "Normal Mode". I turn off "Hold Mode", it's just not necessary on an airplane. On a helicopter it's pretty much the other way around.
 

Jetpainter

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But if the gyro is on as soon as you let go of the rudder stick to neutral the gyro will read the plane at whatever angle the plane is at and will try to hold it at that angle, because what ever angle or position the plane is in and the sticks are neutral the gyro reads that and try’s to hold that position and that drives me nuts or makes feel like some one else is on the sticks.

It shouldn't do that unless you are in "hold" mode. If it's doing that in normal mode you have the gain too high.
 

49dimes

Damn I'm hungry
As I understand the new Spektrum gyro, all the adjustments are done from a gyro screen on your newer Spektrum transmitter. The JR won't do that.

I finally tested out the new AS3000 on the Alien Extra before I sold it. Yes you can make gain setting "default" adjustments with the forward programming feature via transmitter but that's all. You can program the transmitter to use the rotary knob to adjust gain to the max set value (default) in both modes (Heading or Stabilization) if using G2 or higher Spektrum Tx's. You also have Gyro telemetry and have Altitude, Rate of climb and G-force. But all initial set ups requires the "Programmer APP" where pre programmed set ups or custom set ups can be done. You could use the 11X but likely would not have the gyro telemetry. Otherwise it operates much like other programmable gyros.
 

stangflyer

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From the sounds of it and this is just my opinion, it kind of sounds like the Gyros are more Hassle and Troublesome than they are worth. Is there really an advantage to them? I can see in a helicopter how they would be a huge benefit.
 
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