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E-flite Beast 60e Aerobatic RC Plane, ARF

Sure :) we plan to do both to show the difference in the video

I can tell you right now the AR635 6-Channel AS3X does not help much in 3D. Does nothing for wing rock even set to 100% gain. I even got another one still no difference so now I putt a block of wood under it to move it up closer the center of the airplane I will see if helps .
 

Steve_B

70cc twin V2
Crazy,

That kind of chimes with my own experience of using a 3 axis giro (not the AS3X) on a 3D model. It didn't help much with wing rock and in fact might actually make things worse in certain circumstances. I ended up snapping out of a harrier and crashing when using a giro.

I also found that the giro I was using (the FY-30A) would not cope with high energy tumbling type manoeuvres, i think the AS3X might be the same because by design a giro will fight any manoeuvre that's not commended by control surfaces. If you for instance try to do a snap roll using elevator and rudder the giro will try to fight the roll because neither rudder nor elevator is a roll command, as far as the giro is concerned the plane shouldn't be rolling!

I also found normal turns needed a very different approach with much more rudder input than normal. This is for the same reason, as far as the giro is concerned aileron is a roll commend not a 'turn command'.. So the giro applies opposite rudder and tries to keep the fuselage pointing in the original direction of travel! This makes for some really ugly turns until you get the hang of exaggerated rudder co-ordination.

How much you notice these effects depends entirely on how much gain you set, but if you want to get rid of them altogether you would have to set the gain so low that the giro would basically not be working. Where the giro worked great was in smoothing out general flight and in pattern type aerobatics, it worked wonders for that stuff. You do also have to be careful with gain settings, if you use optimum gain for slow/medium speed flight you run risk of getting violent flutter at higher speed, first time this happened to me i thought I would lose the ailerons.
 
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rcbirk21

70cc twin V2
not to push, but i think that is where the cortex excels. it never holds you back or makes the plane do anything unnatural, or at least i havnt noticed it yet
 
Before any of these were flying Ken at Subsonic recommended the 4320 450 KV. Prop at that wind is 18x8. I have that motor but even though I was a early preorder no airframe yet. There is a guy flying one with a 4325 and a custom wind and I think a 19 inch prop. I think I will stick with a 4320. A bit more watt's and prop than HH's motor. Should be good.
Richard
 
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