Small Gas 3D

[Dr. Gonzo]

Mike at MHRC is a standup guy. I would trust what his opinion is on the airframe. They stand behind what they sell. It is nice looking!

 

[Enterprise]

My buddy just got his EME-60 from them and he got to experience their customer service as his motor has some issues that have been resolved. I would be interested as well to hear their opinion on this particular product. It does appear different from the one that general hobby sells. I also see one that limitless aero sells as well. I just wonder about the flying characteristics and what development was done.

http://www.generalhobby.com/goldwing-brand-sbach-20cc-color-p-402.html

http://www.limitlessaero.com/apps/webstore/products/show/3831985

 

[Dr. Gonzo]

Thats the problem. Is it a true 3D plane or just a sport plane? It is a interesting airframe. Price is nice too.

 

[Abrams]

I'm starting to rethink this whole thing. I have a Cap232 that I've been thinking of selling. I want to replace it with a 3D plane, but I would also like to have a smaller gas plane to fly at a smaller field.

I've been looking at the 71" AJ Slick. I think this would make a great replacement for the Cap, but I think it's a little big for the small field.

I don't particularly care if the smaller 20cc plane I want to build is fully 3D capable. So now I am back to looking at other smaller planes to stuff the 20cc DLE into. One of my original thought was the 58" 3DHS Edge 540. It seems similar to the air frame Enterprise is using on his project. I just like this one better.

Any opinions?

 

[Enterprise]

Have you considered this plane? Since it is setup for the 15cc it will probably be a lot easier to modify for the 20. Just have to hog out the firewall to get the carb to fit. I did the H9 katana with a 20cc. Not fully 3D, but a good sport flyer.

http://hangar-9.com/Products/Default.aspx?ProdId=HAN4215

 

[Abrams]

I keep hedgin on and off of this Velox. I have a Seagull Edge 540 with a weak .46 Evolution. The airframe is solid, but it's a 3D plane like a Honda Civic is a sports car (that is my work car, so I can say that). I don't want to build an almost 3D plane, but 70"?!? That is not a small plane.

I don't want to go electric. I definitely don't want nitro, getting out of that. I had serious thoughts about those Evolution gas engines, but I just don't like the fuel system. Maybe the tired .46 is clouding my judgement.

 

[gyro]

Aerobeez has a new 65" profile plane made for the DLE 20

 

[SnowDog]

Agreed...if I had a dle-20 I would buy one of the aerobeez 65" profiles for it in a heartbeat...they have the largest selection of profiles that I've seen in a long time.

 

[Abrams]

Aeroworks 60" Extra 260. For the small field, it's small enough. But it's not going to be a serious 3D machine. Over the winter I want to put together an AJ Slick 71" or the 89". I'm leaning toward the 89".

 

[Enterprise]

I tend to think of planes more in weight class than wingspan. A 60" electric will be in the 5-6 pound range. The 71" slick on gas is over 11 lbs. My 70" velox gasser is 9 lbs. The H9 katana was 8 IIRC. If you want the DLE-20 class plane to be ballistic you have to get into the 7lb range and you are probably not going to get there in a full fuse airframe without trying to convert an electric. .

I will report the weights in the 15cc after I fly it. It is still a experiment. Weight is still the enemy. An electric is still going to be lighter.