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The 'What did you do in your workshop tonight?' thread

Snoopy1

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I learned a valuable lesson, just recently, like, within past 2 days, and I would like to share this with you.

It deals with gassers and tuning.

I have friends, who tell me: "I have never touched my needles" since installing a brand new motor. And I guess, i figured, this was something to be proud of. "My engine runs great, and I have never had to mess with the needles".

I guess that sounds nice. Not bragging. Not arrogant. More of a matter of fact statement demonstrating that one person's good fortune.


I have heard this for years!


3 years ago, I purchased my 1st quad engine. And not only this concept of "don't touch the needles" was on my mind, but also, the fear of attempting to tune both carbs, and the chance of a dead stick, really scared the bejeebees out of me.

SO, for over 300 flights, I never did such thing, seemed to me, that it ran great. This was an airplane, with canisters (KS 95) and 2 into 1 headers.

I did notice, over the years, kind of like in the back of mind, almost sub conscious: "my airplane sure does seem lethargic...."



OK, be back to that soon....


then, 1.5 years ago, I got me a second quad motor, for another Yak. And, I did the same. Never messed with the needles and never "tuned" it, for fear of a dead stick. this was sort of a back up airplane, and a good friend, earlier this year, was able to fly this airplane in the unlimited class at a contest, and he made the comment : "looks like it is running out of steam on an upline, with two elements, one of which is a snap".
And I noticed this, and again, something in the back of my noggin, subconsciously, made a mental note of this. A tiny light bulb turned on, but not enough to make me do something about this.


be back to this soon....


then, this year, I built a third 40% for the fleet, another extra, and I put in a 3rd quad, this one, again, with the KS 95 cans and 2 into 1 headers.

and for some reason, I said, let me tune this baby. from Day 1, i tuned this puppy. Spent a good amount of time, with my friend, doing this, and then flew her, and WOW!! Is all i can say. I knew, now, there is a definite problem.


Imagine, all 3 airplane have same exact brand motor, same exact brand and size propeller, same exact exhaust system.
and using my onboard telemetry, i was able to compare the three of them, their peak rpm doing flight.

and an outstanding difference, between the 1st two, and the last one (which was tuned from day one).


here are my results:

if you do not tune your motor, when using canisters or tuned pipes, and run her rich, you will end up clogging the muffler system over time, also depends on what brand exhaust it is, but for the ones I used, I guess, they are sensitive to this. and the more rich it is, the sooner it will get there, that is, to less performance.

the 1st one, with over 350 flights now, I removed the KS canisters, and went with JTEC mufflers, and the increased performance is phenomenal. I am getting peak rpm, in the air now, of over 7100 rpm, turning a 30 x 13 EVO Mejzlik 2 blade prop.

the 2nd one, last night I did this, I spent over 5 hours, trying to tune it. came up with conclusion canisters were clogged, *with only 50 flights on her*, and removed the KS, and installed, semi new Pro Flows, and on the ground, gained over 300 rpm, again, same exact prop. I need to fly her and report back on the peak rpm in flight.

the 3rd one, peak rpm , in the air, was over 7300 rpm.
Well, I no longer have that airplane, since a tree grabbed it from the skies, but, the motor is currently at its birth place, getting looked at, and when it returns, its new home will be a Carden Pro.

SO, my message to you all, always tune your motor, from day one. DOn't think, "I never touched my needles" is a good thing. In fact, if you or anyone else ever says that, I will assume you are not getting top performance.

And if you want to learn how to really tune your motor well, which I did from this one gentleman, look at the thread by Terry, from Terry's Customs.

You all have a great day.


Just showing my age but you are correct about clogging of tune pipes or cannesters. Many years back use to race 50cc world class motorcycles on the European circuit One of the biggest maintenance problems during the race season was maintaining the performance of the bike and or biggest problem was the tune pipe we had to build several because we could never clean them properly. Trust me even if you tune it perfectly, it will so be a slow down hill in performance. The leaner and hotter you run the engine the carbon build up will still take place not as fast but the dry hard cardon is very difficult to clean and remove. If noise is not a problem and then run standard mufflers you will have better performance over the long run.
The stupid things we use to do. Built a circulation system for the exhaust. Connected it to a pump and a heating system and let it run for days if we could to clean the tune pipe out. And what chemicals did we use any thing we could find, it was so that there were times that when we came back the tune pipe was dissolved. But nothing work even in those days when there was very little restrictions on chemicals.
 

Jetpainter

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I had to re-spray the pink P-51 cowl last night. The guy that I painted it for decided after I panted it the first time that he needed to add a hatch to the top of the cowl for batteries.


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Snoopy1

640cc Uber Pimp
I had to re-spray the pink P-51 cowl last night. The guy that I painted it for decided after I panted it the first time that he needed to add a hatch to the top of the cowl for batteries.


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OK @Jetpainter you are killing me with your paint jobs. Every time I look at some of your work I think man why my stuff doesn't look like that. Ok how much do charge to paint a cowl. I will needing to paint my coul for my ViperSt in the spring next year. I will never be able to look at my cowls again and if do I will be thinking of that big beautiful purple thing.
No kidding you do a beautiful work.
 

Xpress

GSN Sponsor Tier 1
Got my 107 yak parts today, lot sooner than I was expecting!!!!

Rudder was first up, Tony supplies just a bare rudder that's covered, so I had to match the trim with the supplied covering. I'd say it turned out pretty good, except the rudder is just a hair larger than the old one and that threw my lines off slightly...

Also, hinges are not glued in so I had to whip out the epoxy and get then aligned up.
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Next couple of days I'll need to cut up the cowl and get it baffled up then get the new canopy plastic mounted.
 

Xpress

GSN Sponsor Tier 1
I feel like I level'd up tonight with my repair abilities. Got the new canopy plastic installed onto its frame- it's not totally perfect and I may have to trim the rear flush with the fuselage but this will work perfectly, she's not a beauty queen anyways.

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Onto the cowl tomorrow!
 

stangflyer

I like 'em "BIG"!
I feel like I level'd up tonight with my repair abilities. Got the new canopy plastic installed onto its frame- it's not totally perfect and I may have to trim the rear flush with the fuselage but this will work perfectly, she's not a beauty queen anyways.

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Onto the cowl tomorrow!
Well while you are "assembling", I seem to be "dis-assembling". You going to get her out this weekend and bust her loose again? I sure love the way a Yak flies. Guess that is why I am really wanting to get the Behemoth Yakster back together before flying season ends. And it looks like it just might happen. All parts will be here in a matter of a week or so. Then just a matter of reassembling, cover and fly. I've missed flying that big piggy piggy. LOL
 

Xpress

GSN Sponsor Tier 1
Well while you are "assembling", I seem to be "dis-assembling". You going to get her out this weekend and bust her loose again? I sure love the way a Yak flies. Guess that is why I am really wanting to get the Behemoth Yakster back together before flying season ends. And it looks like it just might happen. All parts will be here in a matter of a week or so. Then just a matter of reassembling, cover and fly. I've missed flying that big piggy piggy. LOL

That's the plan, just need to fit the canopy properly, fit the control horns to the rudder, then cut and baffle the cowl and she'll be ready to go.

Come to think of it I should have glued the rear supporting plate to the canopy frame and matched it to the fuselage before gluing and cutting the canopy, that would have made for a better fit but oh well.
 
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