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Petitioning AMA members for separation from drones

Astrohog

70cc twin V2
Again take my advice call the FAA and let their phones ring voicing your opinions in an intelligent way!

UMMM....this is why I send my due$ to the AMA each year. Their voice SHOULD be much louder than mine when it comes to the FAA. THIS IS WHY WE PAY THE AMA!!!!!! (I am sure a professional, that we HIRED to perform these duties, will be able to voice it in a much more intelligent way than I ever could!)

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ChickenBalls

"Cool Guy"
Personally if the AMA seperates it now it will make the AMA look bad in the FAAs eyes and they will just make us register anyway. I would be careful....
Many of those complaining should have contacted the FAA and AMA years ago but you waited till this happened.
At this point you need to contact the FAA and say your 2 cents.
I don't think ama could look any worse than they do now, screw FAA's eyes. I really don't think calling, writing the FAA will have any effect on this outcome. Registration is here, and the only options you have are to register, or not, or is there another option? Why yes there is, and it's on a local level, my club took option 3 to separate ourselves from the FPV, Quad,MR crowd, we banned them, No FPV, NO Quads, NO MR's. This ban passed unanimously, even though there was a few of us flying them, including myself. We saw the bigger picture, we didn't have a crystal ball, "BUT" we saw ama abandoning us, stabbing us in the back, and going after the drone $$$, and not protecting model aviation. I suggest all other ama chartered clubs be proactive, and do the same. ama is now acting like they are shocked at this outcome of registration. I call "BULL:dancing-poop:" in fact the whole time ama has been chasing the drone $$$, and saying "SCREW" traditional model aviation. I've emailed ama many times, jumped threw the ropes, contacting my congress man, the whole nine yards, and I'm done. I'm going to register with the FAA, and go fly. I have been contacting ama, asking if the FAA registration will be required to fly at ama chartered clubs, but they have no answer. I see from reading that most chartered clubs, are making it mandatory, and rightfully so, even though ama hasn't come out and said it's mandatory, I bet they run like hell if someone filed a claim, and they find out we let an unregistered model aircraft fly. I can see it now "CLAIM DENIED"
 

garlandk

100cc
I don't think ama could look any worse than they do now, screw FAA's eyes. I really don't think calling, writing the FAA will have any effect on this outcome. Registration is here, and the only options you have are to register, or not, or is there another option? Why yes there is, and it's on a local level, my club took option 3 to separate ourselves from the FPV, Quad,MR crowd, we banned them, No FPV, NO Quads, NO MR's. This ban passed unanimously, even though there was a few of us flying them, including myself. We saw the bigger picture, we didn't have a crystal ball, "BUT" we saw ama abandoning us, stabbing us in the back, and going after the drone $$$, and not protecting model aviation. I suggest all other ama chartered clubs be proactive, and do the same. ama is now acting like they are shocked at this outcome of registration. I call "BULL:dancing-poop:" in fact the whole time ama has been chasing the drone $$$, and saying "SCREW" traditional model aviation. I've emailed ama many times, jumped threw the ropes, contacting my congress man, the whole nine yards, and I'm done. I'm going to register with the FAA, and go fly. I have been contacting ama, asking if the FAA registration will be required to fly at ama chartered clubs, but they have no answer. I see from reading that most chartered clubs, are making it mandatory, and rightfully so, even though ama hasn't come out and said it's mandatory, I bet they run like hell if someone filed a claim, and they find out we let an unregistered model aircraft fly. I can see it now "CLAIM DENIED"
I don't agree with banning FPV flight or uav flight at AMA fields....I go out and fly both my giant scale planes and FPV UAV planes all the time.... People have also been flying FPV at flying sites for a long time without any issues.

To me that is being a fog not allowing a certain type of flying at the field....
 

mndless

Don't know a thing..
UMMM....this is why I send my due$ to the AMA each year. Their voice SHOULD be much louder than mine when it comes to the FAA. THIS IS WHY WE PAY THE AMA!!!!!! (I am sure a professional, that we HIRED to perform these duties, will be able to voice it in a much more intelligent way than I ever could!)

Astro


What is sad is that the AMA, their input and voice were completely ignored by the FAA. AMA got spanked and sent back to Muncie with their tail between their legs. Our AMA pushed us to the curb and went "all in" thinking they would get a windfall with the registration of all these new drone pilots.... they walk away with nothing and their input ignored... they accomplished nothing more than negatively impacting their actual paying membership.... they gambled and lost in a big way...
 
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garlandk

100cc
The FAA has admitted in the past that they have (had) no intention of regulating "traditional" modeling activities. They obviously (at one point) saw the same distinction that we are continuing to advocate for.

I understand that you make your living flying drones, and that you may have more difficulty seeing it the same way as the majority of the AMA members.

Regards,

Astro
I am open to new technology in our industry. Its funny you mention to quad guys it's their fault they will quickly pull up a YouTube video of us traditional modelers doing something stupid.... That is why I say we need to work together on this task.

I just see both sides of the story. Actually all three sides. traditional/UAV/manned.
 

ChickenBalls

"Cool Guy"
I don't agree with banning FPV flight or uav flight at AMA fields....I go out and fly both my giant scale planes and FPV UAV planes all the time.... People have also been flying FPV at flying sites for a long time without any issues.

To me that is being a fog not allowing a certain type of flying at the field....
I am a FOG, while not a traditional FOG, I am one none the less lol. Kevin don't get me wrong I like the FPV stuff, just not worth allowing them at the field, at the cost of model aviation.
 

Flyin4fun

70cc twin V2
I don't agree with banning FPV flight or uav flight at AMA fields....I go out and fly both my giant scale planes and FPV UAV planes all the time.... People have also been flying FPV at flying sites for a long time without any issues.

To me that is being a fog not allowing a certain type of flying at the field....
I agree, WHY ban an aspect of our hobby from a place where they should be flown in the first place, and pushing those that want to fly them to places where they should not. It doesn't seem like a very proactive thing to do for an AMA chartered club.
As long as those that fly them according to the AMA's rules for FPV , they should be welcomed.........
 

ChickenBalls

"Cool Guy"


What is sad is that the AMA, their input and voice were completely ignored by the FAA. AMA got spanked and sent back to Muncie with their tail between their legs. Our AMA pushed us to the curb and went "all in" thinking they would get a windfall with the registration of all these new drone pilots.... they walk away with nothing and their input ignored... they accomplished nothing more than negatively impacting their actual paying membership.... they gambled and lost in a big way...[/QUOTE]
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garlandk

100cc
I am a FOG, while not a traditional FOG, I am one none the less lol. Kevin don't get me wrong I like the FPV stuff, just not worth allowing them at the field, at the cost of model aviation.
At the same time I lost my home flying field a few years ago due to lack of members... We had over 25 members but still couldn't afford to keep going due to how much rent was at our field. It was a fantastic spot. I feel if we deny memberships people might regret it later on as the older guys move on and not many new guys coming in. Of course it's according where you live and how your club is funding to keep it going.
Where I lived at the time we were not getting many new guys in. :(
 
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