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Discussion The I’m going out flying thread 2018

stangflyer

I like 'em "BIG"!
I'd sure like to know how my Pilot Edge got so heavy. When it had the DA50 in it with a KS65 canister it weighed 17 1/4 pounds. Your not the only one that told me their's weighed in the 16's.

I set the timing on mine back so it wouldn't kick back and eat me.
Crazy huh? My son had two of them and both of them were exactly the same at 16 3/4 pounds. I really can't say why yours was over the 17 pound mark. But as you mentioned, the 16'ish mark was pretty normal weight.

I had heard of others that also set the timing back to keep the GP61 from "nabbing" their prop flippin' fingers. Not to mention other necessary body components. I would be interested to know what your 61 is turning a 24x9 at. I am not above grabbing a good GP if the price is right and the power is surpassing what I already have. Course, that wouldn't be hard to do right now. LOL

So before you start making big changes put the plane on a strict diet and see how much you get out of it but do mean do things you have never done before. See what you can get down to as a challenge, then fly it. Then make a decision one way or another. But I mean like wheel pants, pilot heads, extra batteries anything that does help it to fly. (Make it ugly).
Not possible Snoops.... No wheel pants, the pilot bust is a flimsy...and I do mean "FLIM...SEY" 1/4 ounce H-9 bust. He is so flimsy that the BE62 shook..."LITERALLY" his head off his shoulders. I had to buy a new one to replace him. As for anything else, I am using two (for redundancy) Pulse 3600 mah 2s Lipos. Can't get much lighter than that. And if "ANY" motor...don't care what size it is, can't handle an extra ounce from an extra battery, then that motor needs to be quartered and cast to the four winds. I would honestly say that the only way I could lose any noticeable weight would be to remove two of the four aileron servos. But the plane was designed to have them and can not be flown on one aileron servo each. The snakeskin weighs in at a whopping 1/4 ounce. So that won't make a difference. NO, the thing is the SD Models were slightly heavier than their later designed counter part Pilot RC airframes. But still at 95" and just over 20 pounds...that really is not bad. Heck, my friend had an original H-9 33% Extra 330. It flew great. Landed kind of fast. But overall was a good flying plane. Don't count on any 3D antics though. It's 27 and a half pounds...Yes, you read that right... 27 1/2 pounds was the primary cause of him dumping it and going with a lighter more up to day airframe.

For what it is worth and for the sake of possibly not having to change anything, I am going to put another gallon or so through the DLE 61 and see if she continues to wake up. It just might prove itself worthy. The last flight of the day today was as I mentioned, pretty good and more than marginally improved. One thing I should note here: The DLE motors my son and I have had or do have at this time seem to take a little longer to seat the piston ring and break in than most I have heard of. I really don't think we are doing anything different other than instead of the 32:1 gas/oil mixture, we are using Redline 40:1 straight out of the box for everything. I guess the proof is in the pudding. His 222 four cylinder was broke down for all new gaskets and new reeds a few months back. Now mind you, it had over 75 flights on it at that time. Roughly somewhere around 12 to 14 gallons of fuel through it. When it was opened up, it looked like a brand new motor that had not hardly been run. I am a firm believer of the Redline synthetic oil.

I just really think the Baby Yak needs that 85!!! :yesss:
 

Jetpainter

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I flew this 90" Extra at 21 pounds with a 10 year old DA50, a can and a Mejzlik 23x8. It was no 3D airplane that's for sure, but it sure flew good and man was it pretty.

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stangflyer

I like 'em "BIG"!
Rob, whats that thing weigh with the DLE? My Pilot Edge weighs like 17.5 pounds and the GP61 throws it around like a toy. I haven't had a tach on mine in a long time so I don't remember what it turns the Falcon 24x9. It was flat hauling the mail today, the tune must have been just right for the weather. Starting it on the other hand............ that's a different story that includes lots of cuss words. :mad:
There is one other option. My son and I have had awesome success with the MTW 75 "rear" dump cans on the 50-60cc size motors. We've gained a consistent 250 to 300 rpm increase over any other exhaust we've tried. I remember one of my 111's went from a scant 6200ish to a flat out 6600 rpm static with a Falcon 28x10 with a set of 75's. So...what's a $buck and a half when it drastically improves the performance? I sure do miss that 111.:(
 

Snoopy1

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I flew this 90" Extra at 21 pounds with a 10 year old DA50, a can and a Mejzlik 23x8. It was no 3D airplane that's for sure, but it sure flew good and man was it pretty.

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Have to agree with 21 lbs for DA50 is a bit much. I had the same motor in a 16 1/2 lbs plane it was working hard to do 3D but it did it, in the meantime just to see how it would change things I built a 50cc profile at just over 12 lbs well to say it is overpowered is an understatement , it is just to little weight for DA50. Seeing I have flown the DA50 from 12 to 17 lbs if I had to go at it again my choice would be around 14 1/2 lbs.
 

Snoopy1

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There is one other option. My son and I have had awesome success with the MTW 75 "rear" dump cans on the 50-60cc size motors. We've gained a consistent 250 to 300 rpm increase over any other exhaust we've tried. I remember one of my 111's went from a scant 6200ish to a flat out 6600 rpm static with a Falcon 28x10 with a set of 75's. So...what's a $buck and a half when it drastically improves the performance? I sure do miss that 111.:(
If all you have to spend is some money for a better muffler and get what you want go for it, it is the simplest way out.
 
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