By the way, some time back a friend and fellow modeler was getting out of the hobby. I went to have a look at what he was getting rid of, which was pretty much everything hobby related, and I bought most everything he had. One item in particular I had seen around but thought for the price, along with looking cheap, it must not be much good. It was a little chop saw and he did not want hardly anything for it so I got it. It is cheap, but, it does a nice job for what it is, definitely beats sawing by hand, clean and square cuts. It did well enough with a piece of hardwood I had to try a small piece of brass tubing, good clean cut there also. Not fast by any means but does the job well enough if it went south I would by another one.