Frank Tiano, Candidate for AMA President

[porcia83]

Having grown up in a family in politics I learned first hand any chairman, president, or director knows how the vote will go before putting something on the table. Politics 101.

Although I disagree with the direction President Brown took with regard to MR's, I would applaud him for knowing who would support him to achieve his goals on this or any project. Some were caught off guard with his proposal and some were prepared to vote. I am not speculating or reading a blog as my information came to me from someone directly involved in the process the day of the vote.

I'll agree to disagree on the first issue, using my specific first hand experiences as well. I don't know that Brown knew who would or would not support him, notwithstanding "insider" information. I knew someone who actually cast a vote that day and their recollection was different. Regardless, the past is just that, the past. There isn't a chance in the world that a completely new administration wouldn't run the same exact way. If anything a completely new EC probably wouldn't be as effective and efficient as one with experience. With staggered elections however, that's not really possible. Brown didn't run the show completely and had to learn how to work within a team, a team that as we know didn't always agree with his positions. Being a leader is a tough job, and it's going to be a challenging position for whoever wins. Kudos to all who are stepping up to have a go at it.

 

[RJ 706]

I'll agree to disagree on the first issue, using my specific first hand experiences as well. I don't know that Brown knew who would or would not support him, notwithstanding "insider" information. I knew someone who actually cast a vote that day and their recollection was different. Regardless, the past is just that, the past. There isn't a chance in the world that a completely new administration wouldn't run the same exact way. If anything a completely new EC probably wouldn't be as effective and efficient as one with experience. With staggered elections however, that's not really possible. Brown didn't run the show completely and had to learn how to work within a team, a team that as we know didn't always agree with his positions. Being a leader is a tough job, and it's going to be a challenging position for whoever wins. Kudos to all who are stepping up to have a go at it.

Everyone is entitled to their point of view be it pro or con. Interestingly the same as you, my information came from in the room also as well as from another reliable person in Muncie.
Always three sides to every story. Great to live in a country which affords freedom of thought and expression.

 

[porcia83]

Everyone is entitled to their point of view be it pro or con. Interestingly the same as you, my information came from in the room also as well as from another reliable person in Muncie.
Always three sides to every story. Great to live in a country which affords freedom of thought and expression.

Agree 100% on all counts. That we have this issue to deal with given everything else happening in the world right now is something to consider. And agree about the sides of a story. I think there are 3...each parties version, and then the truth. Have a great night, and happy flying.

 

[RJ 706]

Agree 100% on all counts. That we have this issue to deal with given everything else happening in the world right now is something to consider. And agree about the sides of a story. I think there are 3...each parties version, and then the truth. Have a great night, and happy flying.

All the best! Charging batteries now to go fly early tomorrow morning.

 

[MikeT]

http://www.modelaircraft.org/aboutama/organization/ec/0716ecminutes.aspx

From the last EC minutes. Looks like this might be the reason he had a issue getting on the ballot. I think it's BS.

JPO Presentation
Bob Klenke, JPO President and Jim McEwen, JPO Executive VP were introduced. They reported to the Executive Council what they have been doing, what the JPO is about and their future plans. It was noted that for the past couple of years JPO had been relatively inactive but they are getting revamped and working to increase membership and participation.

Discussion included the changes to the turbine thrust rules; updating the web site; their ability of electronic membership; and working with I. Maine to send out a survey via Survey Monkey (of the 1,400 people that received the email they received just over 200 responses). They reviewed the JPO mission, topics for their publication Contrails and the activity of the community. Future plans are to build their membership; maintain the turbine rules, update LTMA (Large Turbine Model Aircraft) rules and rules compliance by turbine and LTMA holders working with AMA. As an AMA SIG (Special Interest Group) they will work closer with SIG chairman R. Cameron.

In a brief discussion of a recent incident involving a jet, it was revealed that individuals were not willing to step up to address the concerns. As an AMA SIG, JPO is the watchdog for this community. AMA is dependent upon members to police each other and the community should be willing to step up and demand pilots at these events fly safely. Contest Directors need to ensure that pilots hold the proper credentials to fly. This goes for all disciplines across the board. Mathewson noted that in 2008/2009 AMA was engaged with the FAA when large model aircraft and turbines were on the cutting block. Due to R. Hanson’s efforts and our Turbine Waiver Program we were able to convince the FAA that those models could be flown safely and responsibly in the airspace. He feels we are literally one major incident away from losing that privilege. Klenke reported he knows there is a problem and they want to be part of the solution but they need to address it without driving away members. McEwen stated they need to communicate and educate members more effectively. AMA is willing to help JPO but there must be communication between the two organizations. Klenke stated they will work on the rules compliance issue. The President thanked Klenke and McEwen for their update.

Please someone correct me if I'm wrong but Event organizers and CD's cannot control everything.

Mike

 

[BarracudaHockey]

That would be incorrect

 

[porcia83]

http://www.modelaircraft.org/aboutama/organization/ec/0716ecminutes.aspx

From the last EC minutes. Looks like this might be the reason he had a issue getting on the ballot. I think it's BS.

JPO Presentation
Bob Klenke, JPO President and Jim McEwen, JPO Executive VP were introduced. They reported to the Executive Council what they have been doing, what the JPO is about and their future plans. It was noted that for the past couple of years JPO had been relatively inactive but they are getting revamped and working to increase membership and participation.

Discussion included the changes to the turbine thrust rules; updating the web site; their ability of electronic membership; and working with I. Maine to send out a survey via Survey Monkey (of the 1,400 people that received the email they received just over 200 responses). They reviewed the JPO mission, topics for their publication Contrails and the activity of the community. Future plans are to build their membership; maintain the turbine rules, update LTMA (Large Turbine Model Aircraft) rules and rules compliance by turbine and LTMA holders working with AMA. As an AMA SIG (Special Interest Group) they will work closer with SIG chairman R. Cameron.

In a brief discussion of a recent incident involving a jet, it was revealed that individuals were not willing to step up to address the concerns. As an AMA SIG, JPO is the watchdog for this community. AMA is dependent upon members to police each other and the community should be willing to step up and demand pilots at these events fly safely. Contest Directors need to ensure that pilots hold the proper credentials to fly. This goes for all disciplines across the board. Mathewson noted that in 2008/2009 AMA was engaged with the FAA when large model aircraft and turbines were on the cutting block. Due to R. Hanson’s efforts and our Turbine Waiver Program we were able to convince the FAA that those models could be flown safely and responsibly in the airspace. He feels we are literally one major incident away from losing that privilege. Klenke reported he knows there is a problem and they want to be part of the solution but they need to address it without driving away members. McEwen stated they need to communicate and educate members more effectively. AMA is willing to help JPO but there must be communication between the two organizations. Klenke stated they will work on the rules compliance issue. The President thanked Klenke and McEwen for their update.

Please someone correct me if I'm wrong but Event organizers and CD's cannot control everything.

Mike

The notes do not reflect the name of the involved parties, including the pilots, CD, or organizer. It's probably premature to point the finger with certainty at one person, and use that as the possible basis for not being allowed on the ballot.

As for what CD's can and can't do, it's incumbent upon them to ensure full compliance to AMA safety rules and regs are complied with. If they knew that people who were not supposed to be flying were allowed to fly, that would be a significant issue. Even more so if it was a repeated occurrence, or worse, they didn't accept responsibility when brought to their attention. They shouldn't be CD's after that.

 

[porcia83]

When do the ballots go out?

Should be out in the near future, coming weeks perhaps.

 

[ChickenBalls]

Help take our AMA back

 

[porcia83]

"Help take our AMA back"

Take it back from who? How does one person take back the AMA? What exactly will be different?