i want to add one more thing. I will just throw it out there. I am not any good at building model airplanes. Maybe about 6 in my lifetime that were kits that i have put together. I have put together over 15 ARF's and done some repair jobs on them, but, my point being, i am not a pro at building airplanes, however, this airplane flies as good as any of the ARF's i have (3DHS or EF), and i still have some more trimming to do. SO,,, what i am trying to say is, if anyone ever was considering building from a kit, this would be the way to go for a beginner.